More bumble bees

It's fair to say that I'm somewhat confused as to the exact species of these bumbles. My certainty goes as far as thinking they're either Bombus terrestris 0r Bombus lucorum...But then again, the bee in the first picture has appears to have a very long tongue, which makes me think it could be Bombus hortotum. Who knows. Whatever they are, they're beautiful!

Until next time, when hopefully I shall be a little less confused!
Claude
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Early nesting bumble bee (Bombus pratorum)

Bumble bee identification is one of the many, many, things that confuse me. Considering this I'd probably not entirely trust my attempts!!

Until next time,
Claude
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